How to avoid awkward small talk and create real connections with anybody, anywhere, anytime...

Proven over 15 years of research & 9,000+ clients. Discover the science-backed way to captivate, connect and effortlessly become memorable.

So you can...

  • Avoid awkward silences
  • Never have boring small talk again
  • Stop spend Fridays alone wondering why your phone isn't ringing
  • ​Walk up to any girl and know exactly what to say
  • ​Make new high value friends, anywhere

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“My social circle exploded."

“I used to think small talk was awkward, boring, and dreadful so I avoided it. After Conversation Magic, I can finally talk to anyone and my phone has been blowing up with invites. Thank you AJ & Johnny!" 

- Reynolds A.

THE SIMPLE TRUTH IS:

When you’re able to show up powerfully, communicate exactly what you want, and get others on board - the possibilities for your life are endless.

… and that’s where Conversation Magic comes in!

Conversation Magic isn’t your run of the mill online course with a bunch of bluster and strategies that aren't backed by science…

These are the same proven strategies we share with our private clients including billionaires, founders, olympic athletes and elite special operators to find even more success!

Over the last 15+ years - we’ve helped over 9,000 amazing people become their best selves and live extraordinary lives.

…And we’ve been asked countless times for a quick, high-value training to help you be seen & heard more in your communication.

A training that would help you have the kind of conversations that move the needle and relationships that make a difference.

We knew we wanted to help, but the internet is already FULL of “cookie-cutter” solutions that simply don’t work, aren’t backed by science, or feel awkward & inauthentic in practice.

So, we created something different (and frankly, far better) - we call it...

It’s time to communicate at a new level... and open doors that were previously closed to you!

Here are the 3 parts to

Conversation Magic

Trick #1 - Captivate

Create strong first impressions that will quickly grab the attention and get people interested in you.

Trick #2 - Connect

Break free from boring small talk and awkward conversations so you can have genuine connection!

Trick #3 - Influence

Show up high-value and become memorable so people always want to see you again.

I can't believe how easy it is...

“Thank you, AJ and Johnny for Conversation Magic! Being an introverted guy, I really appreciated the simple to understand, yet detailed and concise overview on how to captivate and connect. These tools can open up a world of opportunities to connect that would otherwise go unnoticed

I discovered your podcast and online courses has made a huge difference in my life, how I view myself and relationships."

- Donavin B.

I was tired of feeling awkward...

“Before Conversation Magic I lacked confidence in myself. My business and personal relationships were floundering and I felt lost. I was super nervous going into it thinking I might not get what I was looking for. I can genuinely say I got my confidence and I'm not a better version of myself. 

This program has been helping me like crazy. I have never felt so fantastic in my life and I have this program to thank for it! “

- Kyle L.

Here are the 3 parts to

Conversation Magic

Trick #1 - Captivate

Create strong first impressions that will quickly grab the attention and get people interested in you.

Trick #2 - Connect

Break free from boring small talk and awkward conversations so you can instantly connect!

Trick #3 - Influence

Show up 'high-value' and become memorable so people always want to see you again.

INTRODUCING

Conversation Magic

Learn how to effortlessly talk to anyone, anywhere, anytime and create real connection

Here's what's included:

  • "Captivate with Effortless Conversations" Training
  • ​"Instant Connection" Training
  • ​"Magnetic Influence" Training
  • BONUS 1: "Charisma Cheat Code" Audio Training
  • ​BONUS 2: Magic Conversation Formula

TOTAL VALUE: $97

TODAY'S PRICE JUST $67

100% Money Back Guarantee

If you’re not 100% satisfied with the workshop within 30 days, we will offer you a full refund.

I can now approach anyone

“Thank you, AJ and Johnny for Conversation Magic! Being an introverted guy I really appreciated the simple to understand, yet detailed and concise overview on how to talk to anyone. These tools opened up a world of opportunities and now I can approach anyone

I discovered your podcast, which has made a huge difference in my life, how I view myself and every relationship."

Donavin B.

I was tired of feeling awkward...

“Before Conversation Magic I lacked confidence in myself. My business and personal relationships were floundering and I felt lost. I was super nervous going into it thinking I might not get what I was looking for. I can genuinely say I got my confidence and I'm not a better version of myself. 

This program has been helping me like crazy. I have never felt so fantastic in my life and I have this program to thank for it!"

Kyle L.

Here's exactly what you'll learn inside...

TRICK #1

Captivate with Effortless Conversations

This first trick will quickly change your body language to never come off as needy. 
By using "neutral body language" to quickly gain their interest and allow them to chase you.
  • How to nail the perfect first impression every time... so anyone can't resist the deep psychological urge to like you
  • How to get women to chase you with irresistible body language signals
  • Simple conversation starter that works in any situation... even with the most attractive women

TRICK #2

Instant Connection

This second trick shows you exactly what signals to listen to connect and avoid becoming just another "nice guy" repelling people with lame conversation.
Learn these 9 emotional triggers to break free from boring small talk forever.
  • The #1 mistake nice guys make without realizing it that repels people
  • How to guarantee everyone you talk to feels a deep connection with you... triggering their feel good chemicals when talking to you
  • How to finally have meaningful conversations without getting stuck in boring small talk

TRICK #3

Magnetic Influence

This third trick shows you how to break free from the "question train" putting all the pressure on the other person in conversations that go nowhere. Break free of people pleasing and give them a reason to remember you every single time.
  • Simple strategy to explode your social circle (this works in business & dating as well)
  • How to leverage your social capital to build your dream network of high-value people that propel you to new levels of success
  • A simple 5-minute a week habit that can use to become more magnetic

THE SIMPLE TRUTH IS:

When you’re able to captivate, connect, and influence people - the possibilities for your life are endless.

… and that’s where Conversation Magic comes in!

Conversation Magic isn’t your run of the mill online course with a bunch of tricks, hacks, scripts that aren't backed by science…

These are the same scientifically-proven strategies we share with our private clients to get unstuck and reach that next level of success!


Over the last 15+ years - we’ve helped over 9,000 amazing people including billionaires, olympic athletes, & elite military special forces become their best selves and live extraordinary lives.

We knew we wanted to help more, but the internet is already FULL of “cookie-cutter” solutions that simply don’t work, aren’t backed by science, or feel awkward & inauthentic in practice.

INTRODUCING

Conversation Magic

Learn how to effortlessly talk to anyone, anywhere, anytime and create real connection

Here's what's included:

  • "Captivate with Effortless Conversations" Training 
  • "Instant Connection" Training 
  • "Magnetic Influence" Training 
  • ​BONUS 1: "Charisma Cheat Code" Audio Training 

TOTAL VALUE: $97

TODAY'S PRICE JUST $67

100% Money Back Guarantee

If you’re not 100% satisfied with the workshop within 30 days, we will offer you a full refund.

Here's exactly what you'll learn inside...

VIDEO EXPERIENCE 1

Effortless Conversations

This first trick will quickly change your body language to never come off as needy. 
By using "neutral body language" to quickly gain their interest and allow them to chase you.
  • How to nail the perfect first impression every time... so anyone can't resist the deep psychological urge to like you
  • How to get women to chase you with irresistible body language signals
  • Simple conversation starter that works in any situation... even with the most attractive women

VIDEO EXPERIENCE 2

Instant Connection

This second trick shows you exactly what signals to listen to connect and avoid becoming just another nice guy repelling people with cringe conversation.
Learn these 9 emotional triggers to break free from boring small talk forever.
  • The #1 mistake nice guys make without realizing it that repels people
  • How to guarantee everyone you talk to feels a deep connection with you... triggering their feel good chemicals when talking to you
  • How to finally have meaningful conversations without getting stuck in boring small talk

VIDEO EXPERIENCE 3

Magnetic Influence

This third trick shows you how to break free from the "question train" putting all the pressure on the other person in conversations that go nowhere. 
Break free of people pleasing and give them a reason to remember you every single time.
  • The effortless trick to explode your social circle (this works in business & dating as well)
  • How to leverage your social capital to build your dream network of high-value people that propel you to new levels of success
  • Simple 5-minute a week habit that can use to become more magnetic

"Well... That sounds great. But does it actually work?"

Hear from your new coaches how Conversation Magic has changed their lives!

AJ Harbinger
AJ was on the fast track, pursuing his Ph.D. in Cancer Biology at the University of Michigan and working in the high pressure environment of a research lab. He would learn that performing well at your job isn’t always enough as he was passed over for opportunities and even having some of his proudest contributions overlooked. Something was missing.

His desire to figure it out was the inspiration for starting the Art of Charm Podcast over a decade ago. It was an opportunity to talk to world class experts and high achievers and learn how they found success in all areas of their lives. It was the scientist in him - have a problem, study it, and break down what’s going on.

He had no idea his “experiment” would lead him to hosting some of the most interesting people in the world from the late Kobe Bryant to Tim Ferris. Those conversations totally shifted his life and set him on a path to building a successful business, speaking to large audiences, and serving other self-described introverts.

The achievement he is most proud of though is getting the opportunity to coach 1000s of individuals on how to chase their own dreams and live extraordinary lives.
Johnny Dzubak
Johnny’s first love was rock ‘n roll. Being an international rockstar was always in the cards.

With music pumping through his veins, it’s no surprise he found himself touring the world and owning every stage he was on. 

But when the music stopped though, something became abundantly clear to him. The life of a rockstar can sometimes be lonely and would leave him wanting more in his personal life. Connection and deeper relationships.

Stepping away from music, he dedicated himself to learning everything about what makes us tick and how relationships work. That’s when he found his second love, helping others develop meaningful relationships that make life worthwhile.

Johnny is one of the most sought after coaches, bringing the same creativity, energy, and artistry to his coaching from his rockstar days.

INTRODUCING

Conversation Magic 

Learn how to effortlessly talk to anyone, anywhere, anytime and create real connection

Here's what's included:

  • "Captivate with Effortless Conversations" Training
  • ​"Instant Connection" Training
  • ​"Magnetic Influence" Training
  • BONUS 1: "Charisma Cheat Code" Audio Training 
  • ​BONUS 2: Magic Conversation Formula

TOTAL VALUE: $97

TODAY'S PRICE JUST $67

100% Money Back Guarantee

If you’re not 100% satisfied with the workshop within 30 days, we will offer you a full refund.

With Conversation Magic, you'll learn to talk to anyone, anywhere, anytime

That's why we’re also giving you free access to...

BONUS #1

Charisma Cheat Code

This special bonus audio training gives you the secret to become the most charismatic version of yourself.

BONUS #2

Magic Conversation Formula

In this special bonus training, you will learn to have effortless conversations and talk to anyone.

“One easy way to become worth 50 percent more than you are now at least is to hone your communication skills -- both written and verbal.”

- Warren Buffett

"Well... That sounds great. But does it actually work?"

Hear from your new coaches how Conversation Magic has changed their lives!

"Well... that sounds great. But does is actually work?"

Hear from your new coaches how Conversation Magic has changed their lives!

AJ Harbinger
AJ was on the fast track, pursuing his Ph.D. in Cancer Biology at the University of Michigan and working in the high pressure environment of a research lab. He would learn that performing well at your job isn’t always enough as he was passed over for opportunities and even having some of his proudest contributions overlooked. Something was missing.

His desire to figure it out was the inspiration for starting the Art of Charm Podcast over a decade ago. It was an opportunity to talk to world class experts and high achievers and learn how they found success in all areas of their lives. It was the scientist in him - have a problem, study it, and break down what’s going on.

He had no idea his “experiment” would lead him to hosting some of the most interesting people in the world from the late Kobe Bryant to Tim Ferris. Those conversations totally shifted his life and set him on a path to building a successful business, speaking to large audiences, and serving other self-described introverts.

The achievement he is most proud of though is getting the opportunity to coach 1000s of individuals on how to chase their own dreams and live extraordinary lives.
Johnny Dzubak
Johnny’s first love was rock ‘n roll. Being an international rockstar was always in the cards.

With music pumping through his veins, it’s no surprise he found himself touring the world and owning every stage he was on. 

But when the music stopped though, something became abundantly clear to him. The life of a rockstar can sometimes be lonely and would leave him wanting more in his personal life. Connection and deeper relationships.

Stepping away from music, he dedicated himself to learning everything about what makes us tick and how relationships work. That’s when he found his second love, helping others develop meaningful relationships that make life worthwhile.

Johnny is one of the most sought after coaches, bringing the same creativity, energy, and artistry to his coaching from his rockstar days.

Conversation Magic

Learn how to effortlessly talk to anyone, anywhere, anytime and create real connection

Here's what's included:

  • "Captivate with Effortless Conversations" Training 
  • "Instant Connection" Training 
  • "Magnetic Influence" Training
  • ​BONUS 1: "Charisma Cheat Code" Training 
  • ​BONUS 2: Magic Conversation Formula 

TOTAL VALUE: $97

TODAY'S PRICE JUST $67

100% Money Back Guarantee

If you’re not 100% satisfied with the workshop within 30 days, we will offer you a full refund.

“One easy way to become worth 50 percent more than you are now at least is to hone your communication skills -- both written and verbal.”

- Warren Buffett

Still have questions?

We've got answers...

Will this work for me?

How long do I have access for?

If you are open, coachable and have a real desire to be a strong communicator, we know it will.

People who have gone through our course saw improvements immediately!
You have lifetime access!

That means even after you master everything we teach you - you can still come back for a much needed refresher any time you need it.

What makes Conversation Magic different from other programs?

What kind of results did people have after Conversation Magic?

While other programs give you 15 minutes of training and a whole lot of fluff...

Conversation Magic gives you comprehensive trainings, simple tricks, bonus trainings, and replays of Q&A with people just like you.
What we hear most from our participants is that their partners, family, friends, and co-workers all saw a difference... instantly!

They went from “small talk” to meaningful conversations in their professional and personal lives.

Do AJ & Johnny really teach this course?

Why is communication so important?

YES - we actually hosted this course LIVE in November of 2021...

And everything you'll learn in the program is based on our 15 years of experience coaching and helping people improve their social skills!
Conversations are the building blocks of relationships and an opportunity to show people who you are!

 Being able to captivate & connect in your conversations is one of the keys to living an extraordinary life.
Have a different question?
Please feel free to email us your question, we're happy to help!

When is the workshop?

November 21st and 22nd
from 9AM - 11AM PT.
We are hosting the workshop TWICE 
so you have every opportunity to attend live! 
Your session will be 2 hours full of value!

What if I can’t attend live?

We are providing LIFETIME access to recordings of the workshop for everyone that purchases a ticket!

Will this work for me?

Yes! We’ve taught thousands of people just like YOU exactly how to do this stuff. From introverts to extroverts, we’ve helped them find the one, get a promotion, find a group of friends they click with, and so much more.

Still have questions?

We've got answers...

Will this work for me?

How long do I have access for?

If you are open, coachable and have a real desire to be a strong communicator, we know it will.

People who have gone through our course saw improvements immediately!
You have lifetime access!

That means even after you master everything we teach you - you can still come back for a much needed refresher any time you need it.

What makes Captivate + Connect different from other programs?

What kind of results did people have after Captivate +Connect?

While other programs give you 15 minutes of training and a whole lot of fluff...

Captivate + Connect gives you comprehensive trainings, bonus trainings, and replays of Q&A with people just like you.
What we hear most from our participants is that their partners, family, friends, and co-workers all saw a difference... instantly!

They went from “small talk” to meaningful conversations in their professional and personal lives.

Do AJ & Johnny really teach this course?

Why is communication so important?

YES - we actually hosted this course LIVE in November of 2020...

And everything you'll learn in the program is based on our 15 years of experience coaching and helping people improve their social skills!
Conversations are the building blocks of relationships and an opportunity to show people who you are!

 Being able to captivate & connect in your conversations is one of the keys to living an extraordinary life.

Will this work for me?

If you are open, coachable and have a real desire to be a strong communicator, we know it will.

People who have gone through our course saw improvements immediately!

How long will I have access to the program?

You have lifetime access!

That means even after you master everything we teach you - you can still come back for a much needed refresher any time you need it.

What makes Conversation Magic different from other programs?

While other programs give you 15 minutes of training and a whole lot of fluff...

Conversation Magic gives you comprehensive trainings, in-depth experience based learning,  bonus trainings, and replays of Q&A with people just like you.

What kind of results did people have after Conversation Magic?

What we hear most from our participants is that their partners, family, friends, and co-workers all saw a difference... instantly!

They went from “small talk” to meaningful conversations in their professional and personal lives.

Do AJ & Johnny really teach this course?

YES - we actually hosted this course LIVE in November of 2020...

And everything you'll learn in the program is based on our 15 years of experience coaching and helping people improve their social skills!

Why is communication so important for success?

Conversations are the building blocks of relationships and an opportunity to show people who you are!

 Being able to captivate & connect in your conversations is one of the keys to living an extraordinary life.
Have a different question?
Please feel free to email us your question, we're happy to help!
“It’s an investment in your social skills, in self-reflection, and the ability to open up.”

“I’ve come to realize that the best investment you can make is not in a house, a car or any other material thing, but in yourself. AoC is an investment in your social skills, in self-reflection, and the ability to open up, to name just a few.

It is a heap of fun; you will meet cool people and the instructors genuinely care about seeing you succeed because, after all, they went through the same process. Sure, you will be challenged and pushed out of your comfort zone, but that’s all part of the fun and adds to the feeling of exhilaration when you begin to achieve your goals!”

- Traian K.
“It’s an investment in your social skills, in self-reflection, and the ability to open up.”
“I’ve come to realize that the best investment you can make is not in a house, a car or any other material thing, but in yourself. AoC is an investment in your social skills, in self-reflection, and the ability to open up, to name just a few.

It is a heap of fun; you will meet cool people and the instructors genuinely care about seeing you succeed because, after all, they went through the same process. Sure, you will be challenged and pushed out of your comfort zone, but that’s all part of the fun and adds to the feeling of exhilaration when you begin to achieve your goals!”

- Traian K.

My relationships are improving!

Accelerates your improvement

Foundation of skill sets I knew I needed to improve on...

Closed $100MM equity check!

I have never been more excited about life!

Improved my relationships with customers through the pandemic

Social circle has exploded and I launched a new business

Best investment in myself I have ever made!

Self-improvement made easy

New skills to build meaningful bonds with people I value

Powerful catalyst for personal growth

Interactions with women completely changed

Complete paradigm shift...

Communicate more than words

Every single interviewer was impressed!

A whole metric ton of value...

Professional communication skills

The best with no filler

Expanded network with free hotel stays and airplane tickets!

I was always self-conscious and now I can walk up to anyone

Training was fantastic!

AOC taught me to live a life of abundance

Talking to people I wouldn't normally talk to

My confidence is at an all-time high

All the tools you need for success

The best decision I have ever made

Made my boss's body language so comfortable...

Lifted a weight off my shoulders...

Framework for best self

Used these skills to meet my wife

A simple framework to grow my social skills

Told my boss what I wanted and now I am fully remote

A LOT I didn't know

A gold mine if you are looking to improve yourself

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